Next GW Mystery Box Confirmed…


One of the things that I enjoy about the hobby, more than winning games, and even the models themselves is the social aspect of the game. Over the years by being a “wargamer” I have had the chance to meet many types of people, players and hobbyist who walk in different life circles then I do- chaps I would never normally meet in my day job or other real social networks…
…and while I don’t consider my blog a rumor site sometimes the ever so small hint of something comes up that catches my attention. Of course it’s the usual “I can’t name my sources” like every other rumor site since I don’t want to get said person in trouble…
So we were talking about the new GW bitz policy and not so much what he thought about it, but rather what GW was planning to do about it, and how it was more of a knee jerk reaction to the Hobbit release a few months back, and how GW implemented it and the new quick codex release schedule to sell more models.  Be it a short term fix or a new strategy I don’t really know, nor care- but how could nobody see the result of the Hobbit @ GW- unless they lusted after that licensing cash, essentially producing models to grab the upfront cash knowing they won’t sell them?
That rant aside…
So then more out of curiosity I ask if GW was going to do another mystery box release like Space Hulk and Dreadfleet, and was surprised at how fast I got a response- YES, and how it is most likely going to be Blood Bowl.
What do you think of this?
It’s no secret that I am a BIG fan of the mystery box games- Space Hulk and Dreadfleet, and that I hope GW keeps on putting them out- more so if they need a cash grab.
Lots of hobbyists complain they take away from other projects and GW should just focus on their core games.
But is this true?
I love them since they are a one shot GW fix that lets me enjoy a part of the hobby without having to spend and more money.
Further the production value of them is fantastic- everything this is GOOD about GW is in each box- awesome components, awesome models, top notch production art, dice, counters, cards, and all that stuff.
It’s nice to have and play a GW product that I don’t have to play catch up with the other players at club every few months with.
So back to Blood Bowl, what do I think of that?
Well, I’ll take whatever they put out, and there is a big BB community that would embrace them game, and I’m sure add some decent homebrew expansion stuff to follow, and the models would be cool to have updated.
But what would that get GW in terms of a new cash grab?
Why was Space Hulk so successful?  
It was “40K” so it was easy to buy into for most of the market- the models could be used in two armies plus the game, and the setting was familiar.
Dreadfleet tried to copy this, but all that really had in terms of crossover was the fantasy setting- you can’t use your ships in anything else.
So as much as I would like to see something like a Mordheim mystery box or a Battlefleet Gothic mystery box that is just my own wishful thinking.
Of course competing rumors talk about a Warhammer Quest mystery box, and THAT is something I could totally get behind…


  1. For me, the problem with Dreadfleet was simple - scale.
    It was not compatible with fantasy or 40k in any way.
    Look at Space hulk. How many nid armies use the SH genestealers? Or blood angels armies using the terminators?

    From the moment I saw it on a GW table I knew - it was beautiful, but pointless to me.
    I see photos of PPress, and their models. Some of them are beautiful. But they dont mean anything me, because they cannot be used within my current hobby, and I am not looking to start a new one.

    I hope they bring back Blood Bowl, but making sure the models look good, and are compatible with fantasy (and convertable for 40k!)

    1. Agree 100%. Both my 'nid army and BC James' 'nid army use the stealers. Jawaballs uses the teerminators in his BA army, but as you point out DF has no crossover- but would BB?

      Warhammer quest might = fantasy.

      I'd LOVE another 40K mystery type box, but what could be reprinted other then Necromunda?

    2. Dreadfleet wasn't even compatible with Man O' War scale wise. THAT is what disappointed me the most. :(

      Warhammer Quest. WOW! That would be awesome!

  2. I don't know enough about DreadFleet to say this with absolute conviction, but I think that on top of the reason you gave (Models usefullness outside of the game) is that there was not much of a campaign piece. Am I right, if so...then how much appeal could you have with the same game over and over again. Was ther any fleet custimazation at least?

    Blood Bowl has this in the form of league play where you players build character with the memorable feats they perform and new skills that they attain.

    I hope that GW decides to release some new models, but even if they don't beyone what is in the box...there are tons of options out there for conversion teams and this covers the modeling aspect of the hobby. Not sure if GW has any new ships cpoming out, but no other models in their whole line can be used in this game...unless someone wants to change the scale and introduce the old Man o' War models.

    The other thing going for Blood Bowl is that it has an established following already...including a 4 annual major tournies. The Blood Bowl gets 200+ "coaches" a year in Warhammer World.

    I think this is the best game GW ever released...the fact that it is still going strong years after any real support from GW is a testament to that.

    Anyway, my 2 cents.

  3. Necromunda or gorkamorka please ( or an updated mash up of the two - dark future!)

  4. I still have my Space Hulk un-opened ready for sale when prices rise a little further.

    I bought it because I thought I would use the BA Termies.

    I didn't really enjoy the game despite playing friend's versions and overall wouldn't pay for that kind of game again.

    I would pay for something connected directly rules and model wise into 40k.
    Or something similar to fantasy.

    The Hobbit releases are so shit there can be no way they expected them to succeed. People just aren't that stupid.

  5. Hmmm, very varied comments on this one. First of all, Kriswithak I can only condem you for your actions. We're suppose to be a community, thus buying up limited edition stock soley for the purposes of you making a quick buck is detrimental to the hobby. It means someone else who genuinely wants it can't get it, or has to pay you money for the privlidge of babysitting the box for 12 months which is money which could have gone back into the hobby. If you want to do that kind of thing, buy some shares or something.

    Secondly, a Warhammer Quest set would probably suck. Quest needs the depth that it has to stand it out as a pseudo-RPG, being one-boxed would probably destroy that element and leave it as just another Dungeon Crawl out of the 1,000's already available. I would even say the same for Necromunda and/or Gorkamorka.

    I've being playing GW products ever since Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone got together for the fighting fantasy books, so I'm lucky enough to have copies of Warhammer Quest, Man-o-War, Necromunda, Blood Bowl, Orginal Space hunk and Expansions, GorkaMorka and the vast majority of stand alone board games they've ever released, and as such there is yet to be a 'Mystery Box' yet that got my goose going. Personally, I'd like to see something new from GW, maybe along the lines of Warhammer Quest but set in the 40k Universe.

    Come on GW, break the Mold!


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